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Authentic Vienna 1820-1827? 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I searched on the net and I found the "beehive" sign used for Vienna porcelain in 1820-1827 on the bottom of one of my porcelain figurines. I knew it was old, but I am not certain if it is a forgery. I read on the site that the sign does not have to be perfectly symmetric. Can you help me, please?
And if you think it is original can you give me an approximate price?

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Re:Authentic Vienna 1820-1827? 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
the mark:

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Re:Authentic Vienna 1820-1827? 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
It appears that it is authentic. So provided that it is and in perfect condition my antique price guide book for 2012 has figurines priced in range from $117.00 to the highest at $165.00. Have you thought about putting all your items in a auction house if you have a lot to sell?
 
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Re:Authentic Vienna 1820-1827? 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
This is a very good price! If it can be sold. Until now, here where I live, in Bucharest, some retailers (auction houses) said for example that this one won't sell, they rejected it saying that customers' taste refuses figurines like this one. In fact it is a small case, it can be opened.
But I am still making research, we have here in my city an on line antique shop, maybe I will be able to put some of my items there.
Thanks a lot Carolyn, you helped me a lot.
 
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Re:Authentic Vienna 1820-1827? 7 Months, 1 Week ago  
The auction house rejected it because it is *not* an item created by the royal porcelain factory in Vienna. Regardless of design or theme, real Royal Vienna items automatically mean big $$$, and no auction house would let such a chance slip ... they simply did not tell you the truth.

Next to a simple base mark, people should always check other indicators when trying to ID an item. In this case, the style and subject of the item does not match the period of existence of the RPF Vienna -and- the overall 'quality' (especially of the decoration) is very bad. Compare left-hand and right-hand side of the gilding: the left-hand side is crooked.

There were many companies in and around Vienna (or rather, Carlsbad in Bohemia) that legally used the Bindenschild mark. From the pictures however, I would rather *guess* that your item is a vintage (post-WW2) "Made in Japan" job.
 
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Re:Authentic Vienna 1820-1827? 7 Months, 1 Week ago  
It is certain it is not a post WW2 "made in Japan", very very certain, but it is true it has cracks, considering its age it is normal, it needs restoration and this is why they rejected it. I have also other very old items from my grandma; I was raised in a house with antique objects and my family was too poor to buy new items after WW2 and even before. With one of my items I went to the museum and that man told me it is at least early 19th century old, so I have reasons to believe my objects are authentic and old. As for this mark I found it on the net and at a first glance it matches the criteria.

Anyway I cannot sell my objects at a fair price and no one is interested in old cracked porcelain, so I will renounce:
http://www.antique-marks.com/vienna-porcelain-marks.html
 
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